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teddy
Tags: jd salinger, short story
January 11 2008
find the short story 'teddy' by jd salinger. it's in a book of short stories by him. read, think, discuss.

particularly of note is the 10 year old boy's premise (one amongst many gems) that if we were able to simply unlearn all our presumptions and logic, we might be able to get in touch with the knowledge that allows us to grow. he says if our bodies grow, then surely the knowledge is within us, but we've just lost touch with it.

and at this point i start sounding like a twat, but i still find the story really interesting and fun and very suggestable to you all.
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01/11/08 sexualcrackr
consider it sought. i love short stories - even more, recommendations! it's truly hard to beat a good ss. raymond carver writes killer shorts...
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01/15/08 snafu
is this it? link
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01/15/08 br
that's thievery! *runs off in a huff*
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01/15/08 snafu
=/
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01/19/08 sexualcrackr
rough grounds. my public library didn't have 'nine stories' - the attainable collection from jd of which 'teddy' lies...(yup, libraries - the old buildings with books you rapscallions- they ordered the book on my request - 3-5 weeks). i don't have time to sit in barnes&noble...i want my time away from there and from a screen. snafu's link remains unreadable for me - though the link and my library are kinda unanimous, this all comes back to how you go about. i live in the deep dark mountains - i spend a lot of time outside.

i look forward to it br.


re: my r.carver ref--- i've made many'a solo journeys on a peaceful afternoon pizza picnic explosion with this un-thieverish link: link
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01/31/08 girl
i'll have to check if the library has it

are library cards free these days?!

i'll get on either way, i'm jw tho...
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02/03/08 Nobodynight
I love Salinger, Catcher in the Rye is the my favorite book.
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02/04/08 phantom
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02/20/08 carolina
i've had that book for a while but never made it to the end.Of course I read "A perfect day for Bananafish." But with short story books I often skip around. but i read it today and i liked it a lot.It made me think so much.Like when he talks about the elephant.How it's only big compared to smaller things. so maybe it's not big at all. just makes me think that maybe things aren't what they appear to be. our minds and bodies are trained to act a certain way. So how do we unlearn all this?How do we reach the knowledge that is within us?i wish i knew. we're all taught to think and act like each other.since grade school. we're taught the same things.rarely does a teacher allow their students to really develop their own ideas. to learn who THEY are, as opposed to how everyone else is and should be. I also liked when he talked about death.how people are so afraid of leaving their bodies.I think,that if people didn't focus on death so much,things would be so different.Like Yeats said "He knows death to the bone,man has created death." Have any of you ever noticed how Salinger uses peculiar names for his characters? just a thought.
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02/20/08 carolina
i just figured out the answer to my question about how to find the knowledge.duh! he says it in the story.spit out the apple! like he said the apple is logic and we were coerced into bitting it.i think that's why Salinger often uses children as his main characters. i think he tries to show the negative influence that society and parents have in the development of children.us in the end.we're molded into the scared creatures we become. Society plays such a major role in the development of our minds and spirits.and it's only getting worse. but i've seen this theme in so many other stories.Vonnegut,Bukowski,Plath,Wilde.they all discussed these themes extensively.how does a story that is only 30 pages long cause someone to think so damn much?!hahaha! I guess that's the point.ok enough.
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03/05/08 paulcastro
ye
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03/05/08 paulcastro
this site has low ratin hu?
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03/17/08 sinicalypse
i havent had a chance to cop the book yet, however i could go off of the premise you laid out there with the 10 year olds... dude, 10 year olds.

to me, society is akin to a steamroller that squishes the hope and dreams right out of you. everyone assumes that evolution is some sort of means for us to grow wings or a third dick or something (all you uni-dicked motherfuckers are missing out, let me be The One to tell you in a fit of irony) but i think that humanity's real evolution goes back to that of the newtype pilot in the gundam anime series: telepathy.

to a crazy shite like me, i swear there's a flow of life that i live in. i can step back and almost watch the world around me spin just a bit slower and start to pick and choose things and look for signs symbols and numbers. it works for me, thus raising the fundamental question: coincidence or some balls out synchronicity?

obviously synchronicity leans towards the one side of the yin yang struggle for all of our hearts and minds, with coincidence backing up the nihilistic desire to die in a fit of nothingness and give back to the earth just once in our sadsack life by fertilizing some small area once the wood decays proper horrorshow.

i would wonder if the oddly philosophic 10 year old kid was raised in any sort of religion, because he'd also be pinning his hopes and dreams for evolution on some sort of a priori knowledge of divine presence, then i suppose anything is possible. i personally hope for neo from the matrix because i live for those keanu reeves "whoa" moments in life, but maybe that's just idealism. kind of like wondering what the 10 year old is doing on friday night.

unlearning all of the basic structure of humanity is good measure to deconstruct the bullshit that makes the world what it is, what makes most people brainless lemmings hellbent on financial domination before total cognitive greatness, and i think if there's a 1 side to the whole 0/1 thing then you can probably begin to really trip on the knowledge accrued. in my case, if this oddly-timed symbolism starts to line up to a point where i can almost will it to happen, i reckon i'd be the world's first telepath and i'd have to go sit at hte bottom of the sea for all of eternity because i think the floodgates would open on everyone's thoughts and man i just so dont wanna go there.

but hey, at least it's an ethos, eh? =P
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